Facebook Discussion With Texas Mass Resistance
There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.
RTP has been a financial supporter of Mass Resistance out of Boston, Mass. No group has been more willing to confront the most radical of radical homosexuals in America, than Mass Resistance (MR) MR is led by Brian Camenker who is of Jewish background. In the streets, in academia, in legislative testimony, etc. they have been fearless! They put to shame 99% of Christian groups.
Yet their solution of ‘cleaning up’ public schools (not closing them) is wrong. (In particular they want to throw out the homosexual material and use abstinence education.) They are now starting new state groups around the country. Their Texas chapter recently did a large neighborhood leaflet drop in Austin, inviting concerned parents and citizens to a recently held meeting where they can learn more of the perverse new homo-sexual/transgender sex-ed curriculum being introduced into the Austin Independent School District.
The material is so truly offensive there is little left to shock people with. The next and last thing left will be sexual acts leading to death. So I messaged them on their Facebook page. See the problem in its fullness below. This dialog was held on Friday, September 8, 2017.
My message to TMR:
I’ve been down all these roads in the 1990s. Even the population control/US Govt. (HHS)-funded abstinence programs are fatally flawed. My ministry did the first-ever interview of a repentant abstinence instructor. The question she could no longer answer was, “How do you talk about marital union apart from Christ, His Word, the parents and a Godly pastor in the pulpit?”
The flaw in your approach is that you are battling sinful human nature and the devil on the devil’s playing filed. Get out!! At great love and sacrifice to your (grand) children, de-legitimize public education by pulling the children out and placing Christ at the foundations of your children’s education. Once yours are protected then go on the attack of the public schools. But all new recruits to your cause must first get their own out!
You are all sounding just like my generation did back in the late 1980s and early ’90s. This same response failed then (and it got MUCH worse) and it will fail now. Public schools are now under a generational compounding curse. And children ‘opting out’ does nothing because your son or daughter will be, like a little goldfish, swimming in filth-pool filled with sexual sharks. Almost all of their peers in the halls, classrooms, gyms and locker-rooms will still have been perversely sexualized. This culture remains an unjust setting for the ‘opted out’ child.
I have taught a class in Lakeway, TX a few years ago on de-funding Texas public schools at the ballot box.
Final summary. You are fighting a defensive, rear-guard battle that has been losing since George H.W. Bush fist pushed thru legislation in the early 1970s to (Title X) fund classroom sex-talk, shortly after Mary Calderone (medical director of Planned Parenthood) with then-Monseigneur James T. McHugh’s (of National Conference Catholic Bishops) assistance, launched SIECUS (Sex Information and Education Council of the United States). (Search “Rubbers” Bush.) [Editor’s Note: Their speaker in Austin was referencing Calderone and SEICUS in her remarks. But I heard no mention of the Catholic Church’s or the Bush family’s involvement in her remarks.]
A truly offensive approach would be to pull the children out of these ‘damned’ government schools and then go after their funding.
But then that might upset the Texas Baptists and their idolatrous love of football. Let them slump back and keep fighting their civilization (family) destroying, rear-guard battles – all to assuage their consciences while they can celebrate their Friday night lights! I can’t wait until God in heaven darkens those idolatrous lights!
You guys need to lead the Exodus out of the schools!
Replacing publicly owned public education controlled by secularists with privately owned public education controlled by parents is not a solution until it succeeds. MassResistance favors the long-term solution, but we are more focused on the immediate need to “resist” rather than the long-term need to “replace.” The latter goal is better addressed by organizations dedicated to it. Trying to accomplish both goals through one organization doesn’t work well for us.
“Privately owned public education controlled by parents”….what is this referring to?
In all due respect, your approach has not been a solution or succeeded over the last 45 years. I have been a financial donor to Brian Camenker (Mass Resistance) for some time but may need to reconsider.
Let me suggest you consider a legislative front to repeal all compulsory age laws, repeal state income tax and property tax levy laws used to fund public schools, repeal the corporations of Texas ISDs and get rid of the system. When successful, the tidal wave of cash in each local community would make high quality, God-fearing, parent-directed private schools easily affordable. And there would be boatloads of cash left over to fund charitable donations so that the children of the poor would start to receive a real education, instead of serving as a mere warm seat/enrollment unit needed to get access to state aid. And serve to further fund their opulent system.
One never gets down the road to such a reality until they first get past the snickering “You can’t be serious!” stage.
Abstinence education was created as a ruse in the late 1970s because the sexual perverts were panicked that so many Christians (especially in the Midwest and South) were pulling their kids out and starting private schools in response to George H.W. Bush’s and SEICUS’ new push to introduce classroom sex talk. The perverts responded with a two-fold approach.
They first funded development of the Christ-less, abstinence sex-talk curriculum, (I.e. Sex Respect was one of the first….have you ever looked at their “Teachers Manual”?) to trick parents into thinking their public school was OK as long as my kid can ‘opt out’ or be taught these pervert-created “abstinence” courses. Second, they made sure that all these new private schools were accredited by the state. (The root word to accreditation is credo or creed. So what is the state’s “creed” which these Christian schools seek to conform to?) In time, most private schools are now teaching the same crap. The Exodus of public schools was thwarted by their superior educational/legislative manipulations.
True resistance will begin with free-falling public-school enrollment numbers. God is not blessing their system. Like the Berlin Wall, Texas (and American) public schools will collapse. Personally, I think it will be sooner than we can imagine.
BTW, one of the first mainline pro-family organizations in the country has now joined our cause. See https://illinoisfamily.org/education/christian-parents-must-exit-government-schools/
Is there any way for us to exist in some kind of friendly way with you without us totally agreeing with you on every point of strategy in dealing with immediate needs? I’ve already said we agree with the preferability of privately owned, public schooling that is accountable to parental needs. (Privately owned, public schooling (POPS) is a phrase that comprehends Christian schools as well as other privately owned schools. It’s useful in recognizing two things: (1) Christian schools are open to the public, and (2) the problem with government-owned public schools (GOPS) is they are government owned, not that they are public. Most people involved in disinvesting government from ownership of public schools are well aware of why the preceding points are useful.) We don’t expect to turn GOPS into Christian schools. Our intent is to make them as tolerable as possible for people who have no other immediate choice but to use them. There is no need to browbeat us with info we already know. As far as our solution not working for 45 years, the situation we are dealing with is the result of your approach being corrupted into the mess we presently see. Your attempt to recover from that is laudable and we eagerly support it, but it’s no solution for parents whose only option tomorrow is a public school. In not seeming to understand that, I think you need to appreciate the difference between what is good and what is right— there’s a difference.
My further reply:
Tyranny and many failed solutions have been rationalized by the urgency of the “immediate”. This ‘immediate’ problem has been around for 45 years.
You seem to disparage me as not one of the ”most-people” who are aware of your definitions. But awareness of such a definition is a bit challenging, when your ‘definitional’ target is moving. In your first reply you wrote “privately owned public education”. Your next reply then ignores that and asserts what you were talking about was “Privately owned, public schooling (POPS)”
Public education, for the millions involved in it, has a fixed definition. It is schools incorporated by their given states, funded with taxpayer (income and property) dollars, accessible to all, with parent’s subject to the state’s compulsory age laws. There is no ‘private ownership’ of them of these government institutions.
Then you switch over to privately owned, public schooling, complete with your cool little acronym POPS. Aside from the fact that this looks like a term invented by a graduate student in a thesis written for some social welfare graduate program and he/she is offended that their work is not being recognized by a critic, I know most of the leaders involved in an informal national coalition ‘to exist public education’ and I’ve never seen POPS used in any of their writings.
Now let me help you become aware of the divergence in your moving target: Public education is funded by money extracted from taxpayers by force of law. Privately owned schooling is not.
Further, Christian schools being open to the public is NOT the same as public education schools being so open. The Christian schools can, should and must limit who of the public is so allowed in. Yes, they can be employed as tools of evangelism but an adopted child of a lesbian couple who has been given ‘orders’ to advance their cause in such a school, should not be a member of the public permitted into a Christian school. But true public education cannot so limit.
Let me apologize for any confusion I may have written which drew you to conclude, “As far as our solution not working for 45 years, the situation we are dealing with is the result of your approach being corrupted into the mess we presently see. “
To be clear, I have resisted your approach since the mid-1980s. My peers didn’t as few to anyone has picked up “my” approach. Again, the organic effort to start Christian schools was aborted in the mid-1970s by the legal/educational gamesmanship of the perverted sexologists and their public policy friends.
The mess we currently see is the fruit of the pro-life movement’s failed response – which I opposed starting in the mid-1980s – and yet the one you folks are browbeating people into following still today. The only recovery will come when Christians abandon these schools and in time the public schools close. That will be both good and right. Even with all the great work Judith Reisman did, I never read where she called for closing public schools and getting the children out NOW!
The discussion became less than productive after this. But now you see the problem. That which has no Biblical warrant to exist, public schools, and which are anything but free, remain ‘a given’ in their eyes. It remains an issue we will deal with some day down the road. But not now! This ultimate faith in the Christ-less government school systems has only made matters ‘compoundingly’ worse for each new generation. When will leaders have the heart of sacrificial service to Christ and to children?
I still think we need to begin leaflet-dropping these compromised gatherings with a flier on the “Sin of Public Education”. I am confident there will be some in the audience whom the Holy Spirit has prepared their hearts to hear His Word and save their children.
~~Paul R. Dorr, Director